SIP. Best Lines from the Double Dates Podcast Hosted By Marlo Thomas & Phil Donahue

SIP. Best Lines from the Double Dates Podcast Hosted By Marlo Thomas & Phil Donahue

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This series offers up tastes of the best episodes from our favorite podcasts. One of them is Double Dates, hosted by Marlo Thomas and Phil Donahue.  It features conversations on enduring love and all its challenges with couples who, like Thomas and Donahue, have been married a long time.

Double Dates Podcast. Marlo Thomas & Phil Donahue Chat with Patty Smyth & John McEnroe.  April 5th, 2021 (28 Minutes)

You don’t get to be a long-term power couple without having some power struggles. Patty Smyth and John McEnroe may not agree on much, but they do agree that they are lucky to have found each other.

Who Marlo & Phil's Guests Are.

Patty Smyth: Singer/Songwriter behind the 80’s group Scandal, famous for singing about how love doesn’t always last. Watch her live here.

John McEnroe: A renowned tennis player in the 80’s whose dazzling shot-making and volleying was nearly equaled by his confrontational verbal style. Famously quoted as saying “you cannot be serious,” he is very serious about his long-time wife.

Married for: 24 years

How they met: at a Christmas party. They didn’t know they were being set up. But don’t ask them about it, because they have very different memories. About everything. John remembers encouraging Patty to pursue music more; she remembers him sticking her at home with the kids and putting her career on pause.

Best lines:

8:55 Patty, “I still didn’t believe in love, in monogamy, in marriage, but I had some kind of faith in him.”

19:19 John, “Obviously the key to success in any marriage is, you have to compromise, you have to trust each other, and also hopefully have a lot of sex.”

21:14 Patty, “Our whole life together is: ‘don’t give up on me. I’m a work in progress.’”

25:34 Patty, “Maybe that is one of the most important ingredients in a good marriage. Do you want to be right? Or do you want to be happy?”

Patty talks about how, initially, she didn’t stand up to John. It took her a while to hold her own with the man who was famous for his temper. Hearing them now, though, you wouldn’t know it. She doesn’t let him off the hook.

Clearly, sex is an important part of their relationship. And, for these two, sex may have helped to balance out a multitude of sins, including perpetual arguments.

Listen to this episode if: you’re wondering how one big personality plus another even bigger personality equals a happy marriage.

‎Double Date with Marlo Thomas & Phil Donahue: John McEnroe & Patty Smyth on Apple Podcasts
‎Show Double Date with Marlo Thomas & Phil Donahue, Ep John McEnroe & Patty Smyth - Apr 5, 2021

Double Date Episode 1: Marlo Thomas & Phil Donahue Chat with Viola Davis and Julius Tennon.

This series offers up tastes of the best episodes from our favorite podcasts. One of them is Double Dates, hosted by Marlo Thomas and Phil Donahue.  It features conversations on enduring love and all its challenges with couples who, like Thomas and Donahue, have been married a long time.

Episode Date March 3rd, 2021 (32 Minutes)

You might think that two acclaimed actors who have been married for nearly two decades would have a lot in common. You would be wrong. Viola’s easily stressed, Julius is calm. He’s extroverted; she’s a loner. He’s clean and organized; she’s messy. This is a tale of how opposites attract and why it can work out in the long run.

Who They Are

Viola Davis: A critical darling of the acting world, Viola is the first African American and the youngest actor to earn an Academy, an Emmy, and a Tony. You know her from How to Get Away with Murder, Fences, The Help, and more.

Julius Tennon: A seasoned actor and producer, you’ve seen Julius Tennon in Dazed and Confused and more TV shows than we can count.

Married for: 18 years

How they met: On the television pilot of City of Angels. He was exactly what she had been searching for. Julius gave her his number, and a mere six anxiety-filled weeks later, she called him.

Best lines:

15:10 Viola, “Relationships are an act of faith, and vulnerability is the ultimate level of courage.”

18:56 Julius, “One of the big things I get from is her is that I can tell her anything. She listens; she takes it in. She’s always interested in my well-being and happiness.”

28:08 Viola, “The best thing that I’ve brought into my marriage is to really ask myself what am I contributing to it or what am I doing to destroy it…whenever you’re on automatic in your marriage, you’re not in it.”

29:27 Viola, “You can’t operate separately with your own joy and go on your own path and your own road if, in the end, it doesn’t honor the ultimate commitment.”

Viola and Julius’s relationship is the picture of health and synergy. You can hear the pride in his voice when Julius talks about Viola’s accomplishments. And he’s taught her a lot along the way as well.

Listen to this episode if: you want proof you can manifest something good in your life.

‎Double Date with Marlo Thomas & Phil Donahue: Viola Davis & Julius Tennon on Apple Podcasts
‎Show Double Date with Marlo Thomas & Phil Donahue, Ep Viola Davis & Julius Tennon - Mar 3, 2021

In the series SIP we give you a a taste of  the best episodes from our favorite podcasts.  Last week's Letter No 22 included a DEVOUR tidbit recommending a listen to the Everything Is Fine episode with Marlo Thomas as a guest.  It provides a great overview of Marlo's "take-aways" on enduring love from hosting a series of high-powered couples in long marriages.  To read my full write-up go here, but the most interesting line from that episode was Marlo talking about her mindset on marriage before meeting Phil:

"I thought that marriage was not a roomy enough place for two whole people. That marrige was a place for 1 and 1/2 persons was my theory. The 1 person (either male or female) was the one who had the dream and was following the dream, and the other person {eg, the "half} was their manager, the quiet spouse."

Everything Is Fine is a series for women on life over 40, hosted by Kim France and Jennifer Rommolini.  It is the best at what it does, which is offer up an honest, interesting, explicit look at everything in life that their sophisticated and urbane over 40 audience might be interested in.  Follow them and their podcast on insta @eifpodcast @kimfrancenyc @jennromolini. And here's the episode It's Marlo Thomas!

‎Everything is Fine: It’s Marlo Thomas! on Apple Podcasts
‎Show Everything is Fine, Ep It’s Marlo Thomas! - Jul 12, 2021

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